Anyone have any idea how many amps it would take to power a car seat? - Edited

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05/28/2019 at 11:01 • Filed to: None

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Back when I was in college, !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and I got a seat out of a W123, then made a frame for it, and put it in our living room. I’ve found some decently priced E92 sport seats, but unlike the W123 seat, it’s electric. Now I know they’re 12 volt DC motors but I don’t know how many amps they’d need to work correctly.

I had a powered E36 seat as my desk chair (I have a picture, but it’s on my personal computer at home) in that same apartment. I was able to make the motors move with a 12V DC inverter that I think output 3A. It could barely make the seat move and I couldn’t sit in it and move it or it’d trip the inverter out. So anyone have any idea what amps a seat motor runs on?

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I took your advice and found a fuse diagram:

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It looks like it’s on a 30A fuse, which is a lot. 


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Kinja'd!!! BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:09

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More than 3.


Kinja'd!!! BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:09

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From some quick research (and some very minor electrical training), I believe you’d need 5 to 7amps, which is a lot. More if you want to heat it, of course.  Some have had success with converting a laptop charger. 


Kinja'd!!! facw > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:12

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Someone here built a racing simulator seat using a power seat from a car, but I don’t remember what they used. If you have a spare PC power supply around, you could start with that, even a fairly weak one should be able to put out way more than 3A on the 12V rail.


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
05/28/2019 at 11:12

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most laptops take 19 volts though.


Kinja'd!!! benjrblant > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:15

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What’s the fuse on that circuit rated for? 15 a? If you can’t find a rating on the motor, I’d look there.


Kinja'd!!! benjrblant > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
05/28/2019 at 11:15

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Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
05/28/2019 at 11:16

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I did google it before I asked and I guess I just didn’t ask the question correctly. I was thinking of going the laptop charger route, but I didn’t know how many amps to get. My charger for my Lenovo only puts out 2.25 amps. Looks like I can find some power supply in that range. 


Kinja'd!!! Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:16

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Check the fuse size from the car?  My guess is 10 - 15 amps.  Might have to go with a brick-style supply, but a 15A 12-14V supply should be available.  Since car batteries deliver 12.4 - 14.0 (ish) volts, I’d shoot for a 14V supply so the motors run a little quicker.  That might be a terrible idea though.


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > benjrblant
05/28/2019 at 11:16

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Ah, that’s a good idea,  d idn’t even think of that.


Kinja'd!!! diplodicus forgot his password > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:16

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Does your e92 have powered seats? Do you have access to a clamp on meter? Could just look at the size of the fuse for the seat too


Kinja'd!!! Future next gen S2000 owner > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:17

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What do you think the fuse on that circuit would be, 10? Probably 2/3 rds to 3/4 of that.

Alternatively, you could mount a deep cell 12V under it and call it good.


Kinja'd!!! BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > benjrblant
05/28/2019 at 11:18

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Kinja'd!!! Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:18

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You could just put a car battery under the chair and connect it with jumper cables, then trickle charge the battery.


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > diplodicus forgot his password
05/28/2019 at 11:21

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My E92 doesn’t, but my M3 does. I might be able to get access to on of those meters. Someone else suggested to pull the fuse diagram, and it’s on a 30A fuse, which is more than expected. 


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > Future next gen S2000 owner
05/28/2019 at 11:21

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30A, apparently .


Kinja'd!!! Future next gen S2000 owner > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 11:26

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So about 20A is my guess. The motor should also have a amp rating on it. 12V at x Amps as  well.


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > Future next gen S2000 owner
05/28/2019 at 11:30

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I googled image searched the motors and I didn’t see the amp rating on them. 


Kinja'd!!! someassemblyrequired > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 12:20

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I have an A4 seat as a desk chair, I just use this to power the seat when I need to adjust i t (12V, 30A) :

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009EIANT2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Works as good as in the car.   The wiring terminals on that box are garbage, but it’s $20 plus a power cord.


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > E90M3
05/28/2019 at 12:35

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If it’s a 30A fuse find a supply capable of a peak draw of 30A (20-25A continuous should do it) , and then fuse at 30A. You should be able to find an industrial DIN rail power supply that would work (the 12V rail of a PC power supply could also work but would require more research into current limits than I can research right now). You could also put an ATV battery in the seat and keep it constantly topped up with a trickle charger.